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Bob is right. The long pin

Posted By: Tom Ray
Date: 8/1/08 7:27p.m.

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In Response To: raising sail (bob)

The much-discussed long pin should not be used to hold the boom above the hinge when sailing. The reason is that in the dreaded crash jibe, the boom will twist the mast pretty hard. Better to twist the stub, stressing the mast partners, deck, and mast base, than to twist the upper mast section, stressing those little hinge pins. Obviously, you're talking about a pretty bad event to actually break those pins, so the danger in ordinary sailing is probably minimal.
The long pin is intended to hold the boom up high when you are NOT sailing, so you can open the hatch and get in the companionway more easily. Someone here also said it is intended to hold the sail and gaff boom down when folding the mast, to prevent any parts getting damaged by the hinge. I have never used it for that purpose, and have never had a gaff boom intrude on the hinge while folding the mast of any of the Com-Pac cat boats.

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Messages In This Thread

Can Suncat be "upgraded" to end-boom sheeting? -- Rahn Lawton (2 Hobie Adventure Islands and close to buying another Suncat) -- 5/4/08 6:13p.m.

Yes Sir Re....You don't need -- Mark Milam , Nonsuch 33, Suncat cabinless, Holder 20, Lafayette, LA. -- 5/4/08 7:07p.m.

gone sailing -- bob -- 5/5/08 7:45a.m.

Bob, we've had some nice spring weather here -- Vicki -- Victoria's Secret (2006 Sun Cat) -- 5/6/08 7:43a.m.

glad to hear U'r alive and well. have fun with the boat. -- geneWj,First Born & Teacher's Pet III. Bradenton,Fl. -- 5/6/08 8:39a.m.

Vicki: I'd pull the rudder out of its hole in the stern -- geneWj,First Born & Teacher's Pet III. Bradenton,Fl. -- 5/6/08 2:55p.m.

I never felt the opening in the tansom for the tiller... -- Jim B., deep south Texas -- 5/6/08 4:53p.m.

Jim: I defer to U as i have never sailed the boat type in question! -- geneWj,First Born & Teacher's Pet III. Bradenton,Fl. -- 5/6/08 8:07p.m.

Gene, you're too, too kind saying I'm not -- Vicki -- Victoria's Secret (2006 Sun Cat) -- 5/10/08 2:40a.m.

Thank You that is what I was implying. The pictures of U show a Smallish Lady -- geneWj,First Born & Teacher's Pet III. Bradenton,Fl. -- 5/10/08 8:03a.m.

Would it be possible... -- Travis Votaw, PILGRIM, the two-masted catboat, Edmond, OK -- 5/7/08 7:09a.m.

Tiller extension -- John- Suncat "Wanderer" in Ontario Canada -- 5/7/08 8:26a.m.

Hinged tiller - good idea -- Tom Ray -- 5/7/08 5:39p.m.

Travis, cutting up the tiller is something I saw -- Vicki -- Victoria's Secret (2006 Sun Cat) -- 5/10/08 2:38a.m.

OPP's my fiinger! Vicki: Why not come to Chat, U'd be more than welcome. -- geneWj,First Born & Teacher's Pet III. Bradenton,Fl. -- 5/10/08 8:28a.m.

Gene, what the heck is CHAT?! I'm pretty computer illiterate also. -- Vicki -- Victoria's Secret (2006 Sun Cat) -- 5/11/08 9:48a.m.

gone sailing -- bob -- 5/9/08 5:17p.m.

New SunCat sheeting -- Craig D, SunCat, Cattitude, Finger Lakes -- 5/5/08 5:24a.m.

My fix, possible solution -- John- Suncat "Wanderer" in Ontario Canada -- 5/5/08 6:04a.m.

Been There, Done That On My Sun Cat..... -- Gerald -- 5/5/08 7:08a.m.

Time will tell! -- Craig D, Suncat, "Cattitude", Finger Lakes -- 5/5/08 10:28a.m.

raising sail on suncat -- graham parker -- 8/1/08 10:03a.m.

You're not paranoid... a few of us regularly have trouble -- Victoria's Secret -- 8/1/08 10:49a.m.

raising sail on suncat -- graham parker -- 8/1/08 12:17p.m.

raising sail -- Dick Herman, Muddy Duck- -- 8/1/08 12:55p.m.

raising mainsail -- Tom Morgan -- 8/1/08 1:23p.m.

Raising sail -- Dave, Sun Cat #103, Grand Haven, MI -- 8/1/08 2:49p.m.

A topping lift or lazy jacks will help -- Carl, Horizon Cat/Picnic Cat, Central Texas -- 8/1/08 3:29p.m.

raising sail -- bob -- 8/1/08 3:54p.m.

Bob is right. The long pin -- Tom Ray -- 8/1/08 7:27p.m.

long pin -- bob -- 8/2/08 7:57a.m.

Dave, a buntline hitch instead of the bowline . . . -- George Haycraft, Picnic Cat #29 -- 8/1/08 6:49p.m.

go to www.grogono.com for visual how to tie knots! -- geneWj,First Born & Teacher's Pet III. Bradenton,Fl. -- 8/1/08 10:21p.m.

suncat sail -- bob -- 8/2/08 8:12a.m.

raising suncat sails- single handed -- graham parker -- 8/3/08 4:46p.m.

I like to just drift, actually -- Carl, Horizon Cat/Picnic Cat, Central Texas -- 8/4/08 6:04a.m.

Graham, I keep the rudder positioned with a -- Victoria's Secret -- 8/7/08 9:32a.m.

Sun Cat end boom sheeting -- Tom Ray -- 5/7/08 5:32a.m.

Thanks Tom.....Coonass engineering at work, Like -- Mark Milam , Nonsuch 33, Suncat cabinless, Holder 20, Lafayette, LA. -- 5/7/08 7:15p.m.

I could not help but notice the tiller extension on the seat, Mark -- geneWj,First Born & Teacher's Pet III. Bradenton,Fl. -- 5/7/08 7:22p.m.

Yep, The Girls don't like it.......I can't be -- Mark Milam , Nonsuch 33, Suncat cabinless, Holder 20, Lafayette, LA. -- 5/7/08 9:07p.m.

Update/Correction -- Tom Ray -- 5/9/08 4:48p.m.

U'r only about 50 miles south of me! -- geneWj,First Born & Teacher's Pet III. Bradenton,Fl. -- 5/9/08 6:56p.m.

End-Boom Sheeting Followup -- John Fiedler (First Day Sailing MOXIE) -- 5/10/08 5:11a.m.

Mine snags the cleats every once in a while -- Carl, Horizon Cat/Picnic Cat, Central Texas -- 5/10/08 10:38a.m.

SunCat End Boom Sheeting -- Lee Copp (Mills Sun Cat 17) -- 8/8/08 5:37a.m.

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