Next Step Technical Assistance

Posted By: Tom T House
Date: 3/16/06 7:26a.m.

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In Response To: Alternator regulator (Don)

Don: Good to hear you're OK and back from your adventure up north. Ain't it grand to be in sunny San Carlos, up to your eyes in things needing fixing and still getting that boat ready for the next adventure. If it doesn't seem all that grand at the moment, change places with me for a week or two and you'll gladly have a broken regulator to work on. Anyway, I wasn't sure how much internet access you have, where you are, to the Next Step Regulator web-site so here's somethings that may be of soem interest to you. Also, if you have already called and struck out...in such circumstqances with other companies, sometimes, I find another call either works out better or I get someone else who is more willing to help. Let us know how it works out or if we can be of some additional assistance, here in snowy and frozen Utah...well until the end of April when we'll probably come down again. Hope this may be of some assistance to you. Best regards, Tom & Abby Web site information: Call 206-789-4743 for a direct connection to a Next Step Regulator technician. http://www.amplepower.com/products/next/ http://www.amplepower.com/wire/next/nextp.html support@amplepower.com. Trouble shooting guide: http://www.amplepower.com/trouble/next/next.html Trouble shooting assistance: http://www.amplepower.com/trouble/assistance/index.html Getting Troubleshooting Assistance Introduction Any failure is disconcerting, particularly when there has been no warning signs. And when the failure is electrical, finding a cure isn't easy. Factory support will probably be necessary. By preparing to help the factory support team, you'll be helping yourself get a solution promptly. Here's how to do that. Don't Call Yet Until you've followed the steps outlined below, calling for help will generally be wasted time. Before factory technicians can diagnose a problem, they need information about the problem. That information has to be detailed ...simply failing to work is not sufficient information to troubleshoot a system. Before proceeding, be sure to read other application notes from Ample Technology regarding electrical system and alternator troubleshooting. Troubleshooting Electrical Systems and Troubleshooting the Alternator System are two such articles. Describe the Circumstances Write down the circumstances leading to the discovery that a problem exists. Make it as clear as possible. If you're not charging, and you just installed a new alternator, suspecting the regulator has gone bad may not be the best decision. Wiring errors, or compatibility issues between the alternator and regulator are prime suspects. When reporting failures on smart regulators which have an error indicator that flashes codes to identify problems, be sure to precisely measure the on and off times. Undue confusion results when error codes are not reported correctly. Measure Everything! Voltage and current readings are the vital signs of the electrical system. Without those signs, even the best of technicians can't troubleshoot the electrical system. While you're measuring, be sure not to disturb normal wiring. We know of one instance where readings were taken by the user who meticulously removed each wire from the terminal block and then measured the potential on it before re-connecting it. Needless to say, the technicians scratched their heads a long time trying to figure out how the readings could be so crazy. When you suspect that an alternator regulator may be at fault, measure all the regulator terminals with the ignition switch off, and again with the ignition switch on. In the latter case, the engine doesn't need to be running. Unless directed otherwise, all measurements should be taken relative to ground. That is, connect the negative voltmeter lead to system negative. Connect the positive lead to each of the terminals to be measured. Full Field the Alternator An alternator can be tested quite easily by full fielding it. This means to activate the field with full battery voltage and check for high alternator output. The full field test should only be done momentarily since overcharge will occur otherwise. To full field a P-type alternator, (most hot rated alternators are P-type), disconnect the wire connecting the field terminal to the regulator. Now connect the alternator field wire briefly to battery voltage. Expect to get a spark or two. You should be able to hear the engine load down as the alternator starts charging. Now Call Armed with a good description of the failure, including error codes, all terminal measurements with and without the ignition switch on, and the results of the full field test, call the technical service number for assistance. Call 206-789-4743 for a direct connection to a technician. For more information, contact your Ample Power dealer, or visit our web site.