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Our nutty northern neighbors...The Left in America would love to establish a

Posted By: Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior
Date: 6/7/08 4:56p.m.

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similar system to stifle speech THEY don't agree with. That's why groups like the ACLU always file lawsuits before sympathic courts, instead of appealing to public opinion and common sense.

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 Our nutty northern neighbors...The Left in America would love to establish a   -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/7/08 4:56p.m.
You lie, again. The ACLU has staunchly defended free speech in the US, and... -- Russell -- 6/7/08 6:07p.m.
Too subtle for you maybe...but the ACLU is slowly sliding in favor of -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/7/08 7:25p.m.
Nope. Kaminer just has her facts wrong. -- Russell -- 6/7/08 7:31p.m.
The ACLU HAS defended conservatives and anti-gay speech, but only in token -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/7/08 7:42p.m.
History is otherwise. You say that because you don't believe in civil liberty... -- Russell -- 6/7/08 7:53p.m.
It is pretty darn simple Robb... -- Francois -- 6/7/08 8:15p.m.
The problem is that those laws require govt to decide good from bad hate... -- Russell -- 6/7/08 8:31p.m.
Yeah you're right, that wasn't fair -- Francois -- 6/7/08 8:48p.m.
and a distinction I forgot... -- Francois -- 6/7/08 9:12p.m.
Oh, so you could rail against Hitler, but talk bad of the Nazi's and it's off to -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/7/08 9:45p.m.
So Bush's noble and successful efforts to stop terrorists before they kill more -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/7/08 8:50p.m.
The curtailment of civil liberty always has an excuse. -- Russell -- 6/8/08 6:20a.m.
I realize saving innocent lives is a "poor" excuse, but I'm sticking with it... -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 6:35a.m.
Same excuse. Canada has one-third the murder rate as does the US. -- Russell -- 6/8/08 6:49a.m.
And the excuses are much the same: more safety, prevention of hate crime. -- Russell -- 6/8/08 6:41a.m.
A dangerous liberal once said -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 6/8/08 3:07p.m.
I haven't surrendered a thing. In fact it is the left, who wants to empower -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 4:00p.m.
It's a matter of choosing which freedoms you want to lose. -- Brian, Precision 23, Lake Lanier, GA -- 6/8/08 5:44p.m.
I've concluded the nation has had its national dialog about the Iraq War -- Arlyn Stewart -- 6/8/08 5:50p.m.
I'd second that... -- Bill Payne, Cloud9, Osaka -- 6/8/08 5:59p.m.
That pretty much -- Jeff, Reinell2200 -- 6/8/08 6:16p.m.
What is ahead? -- Arlyn Stewart -- 6/8/08 11:08p.m.
I often wonder, of those over 50 who support Bush, how many supported Nixon? -- Russell -- 6/8/08 6:47p.m.
In truth, the most corrupt and self-serving political couple just lost their -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 8:26p.m.
You're confusing personal sins with political corruption. -- Russell -- 6/8/08 8:48p.m.
There's a lot more than just personal sins in the Clinton crime wave!... -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 8:58p.m.
What did Clinton do that challenged the Constitution? -- Russell -- 6/8/08 9:35p.m.
And what happened to the South Vietnamese, Cambodians and Loations when we -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 8:34p.m.
What happened in Cambodia was because of what US did, not because we left. -- Russell -- 6/8/08 8:39p.m.
Pol Pot killed 1.5 million Cambodians, 1/5 of the population, thru forced -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 9:19p.m.
No, just the historical fact: Nixon's bombing of Cambodia fed Pol Pot's army -- Russell -- 6/8/08 9:28p.m.
You are confused! Pol Pot did his killing between 1975 and 79', long after the -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 9:49p.m.
Pol Pot didn't fall out of the sky. How did he get powerful enough to do that? -- Russell -- 6/9/08 6:05a.m.
No, Pol Pot did not fall out of the sky. But US bombing didn't have much to do w -- Steve Haines, catboats, Goose Bayou, FL -- 6/9/08 8:12a.m.
Historians agree the bombings helped Khmer Rouge's growth & argue on how much. -- Russell -- 6/9/08 11:53a.m.
Russell, I've read alot on the subject, -- Steve Haines, catboats, Goose Bayou, FL -- 6/9/08 2:50p.m.
Nixon's bombing campaign was extensive. Here's one article on the subject... -- Russell -- 6/9/08 3:34p.m.
Don't See the Word Massive Anywhere -- Dan McGuire -- 6/9/08 4:12p.m.
Don't forget, -- Jeff, Reinell 2200 -- 6/10/08 4:28a.m.
"2,756,941 tons’ worth, dropped in 230,516 sorties on 113,716 sites." -- Russell -- 6/10/08 6:35a.m.
Good points, Russell. Lots of bombs, lots of years. -- Steve Haines, catboats, Goose Bayou, FL -- 6/10/08 7:49a.m.
Yours is a good final word, save for this kudo. -- Russell -- 6/10/08 8:15a.m.
Interesting discussion, thanks to you both -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 6/10/08 8:51a.m.
"2 tons for each individual?"..your math is as faulty as your logic...Better try -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/10/08 8:52a.m.
Right. "Only" 755 lbs of ordnance per man, woman, and child. -- Russell -- 6/10/08 9:33a.m.
For perspective, -- Steve Haines, catboats, Goose Bayou, FL -- 6/10/08 10:23a.m.
Source?? -- Dan McGuire -- 6/10/08 9:30a.m.
Click on the link in post that says, "Here's one article on the subject." -- Russell -- 6/10/08 9:34a.m.
I've scanned literally hundreds of the million or more google sites on Pol Pot -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/10/08 10:34a.m.
Fortunately, I didn't say that. And I take no pleasure at all that US policy... -- Russell -- 6/10/08 11:11a.m.
American troops LEAVING the reigon had more to do with enabling Pol Pot to -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/10/08 12:58p.m.
No, THAT is the lie. Staying in Vietnam would not have prevented Pol Pot. -- Russell -- 6/10/08 1:22p.m.
There might be some argument that our bad enterprises -- Arlyn Stewart -- 6/10/08 1:35p.m.
It's funny how whenever your faulty logic or blame America first attitude is -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/10/08 1:15p.m.
Never Mind -- Dan McGuire -- 6/10/08 9:42a.m.
very true -- dave -- 6/8/08 8:53p.m.
Agreed, mostly. Continuing the dialog is useful for several reasons -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 6/9/08 10:37a.m.
That's pretty funny, Doug...Your lack of knowledge of history and current -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/9/08 5:23p.m.
"There you go again" .... Thanks Robb -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 6/10/08 6:15a.m.
Just stating the facts as we know them, Doug. Look them up and learn...it's not -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/10/08 7:06a.m.
So you have no problem with your country hauling someone before a tribunal -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/7/08 8:40p.m.
no problem at all... -- Francois -- 6/7/08 9:44p.m.
The problem is...You, as a Canadian, DON'T have freedom of expression or freedom -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/7/08 9:50p.m.
LOL...protect us from WHAT??? -- Francois -- 6/7/08 9:58p.m.
From yourselves and your government...If the Canadian people won't or can't -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/7/08 10:20p.m.
you forgot the "SUBJECT ONLY" part... -- Francois -- 6/8/08 6:32a.m.
YOU should certainly be distrustful of YOUR country....they've taken your rights -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 7:18a.m.
We'll just have to see how it plays out (the application)... -- Francois -- 6/8/08 9:16a.m.
The irony is that Christian religious right oppose the liberalizing influences.. -- Russell -- 6/8/08 9:29a.m.
I hear ya...loud and clear -- Francois -- 6/8/08 10:05a.m.
But the TRUTH is that MOST of America, Christian or not, oppose the blatant -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 11:45a.m.
Most Americans prefer freedom, even with its downsides. -- Russell -- 6/8/08 9:05p.m.
So the worse thing about radical muslims isn't that they use violence to reach -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 10:01p.m.
Your answer opened the door for a side thought -- Arlyn Stewart -- 6/9/08 12:30a.m.
Excellent post Arlyn -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 6/9/08 10:40a.m.
WOW...you really ARE that naive! -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 9:35a.m.
STILL no answer! What's your plan, Einstein??? -- Francois -- 6/8/08 10:04a.m.
What, I'm supposed to instantly come up with a plan to counter the growing -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 11:27a.m.
puff puff, pass -- Patrick C27 Whittier Ak -- 6/7/08 9:59p.m.
You've railed against free speech many times. Leave its defense to ACLU... -- Russell -- 6/8/08 6:18a.m.
You've lost another argument, Russell, so, as usual, you begin spewing lies -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 7:32a.m.
You have many times damned the ACLU for defended NAMBLA's expression of views. -- Russell -- 6/8/08 7:45a.m.
You're lying again, Russell. I've never questioned NAMBLA's right to publish, -- Robb, Great Dane 28, Yankee Dolphin, Lake Superior -- 6/8/08 8:21a.m.

 

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