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Home Forums Search Trailer Sailor Roster Chandlery Events Classifieds Resources About TSBB SBO Sites	Instructions/FAQ | Rules & Etiquette | Clear Cookies View Thread | Post Response | Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg | P-19 and Turtle Posted By: Robert Griffin P-19 #1505 Sandbob, Tahoe Date: 11/1/08 10:22p.m. Report: outside forum guidelines In Response To: Mine is a P19 (link) (Chris J, P19 "Rocky" SLO CA) First,- not a sailboat made is immune to being turned upside down or for that matter pitch-poled. That has happened to 40 footers. That being said the only 19 that I have read about was when the main was raised leaving a beach and the keel or weighed center board as some call it, was still up in the cabin. From my own experience on Tahoe when I have been knocked down in a sudden gust the boat rounded itself up and stopped. I do carry about 180 to 200 lbs of extra weight between the water bag, battery, spare anchor, extra chain, tools etc. all centered and balanced side to side near the pivot point of my "locked down lifting keel" So figure about 500 lbs near the center of a boat that weights 1400 lbs and you have a fair amount of ballast in the middle of the boat down low. I have been knoced down to where water came over the rub rail probably eight time over 5 years. Yes is scares me everytime and I always let go the tiller and release my main from its cleat in that order. "WHEN IN DOUBT, LET IT OUT" So far my 19 seems to be very hard to go past a certain point before she rounds up into the wind and stops. This is only my opinion from personal experience and what I have read that I know is factual.

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Turtle Roll Call -- Dick Herman, Muddy Duck -- 10/31/08 3:32p.m.

My boat is a turtle, but not me. -- Chris J -- 10/31/08 5:16p.m.

Dick, what a great idea! -- Bill Nolen, WWPotter Owner's Web Site -- 10/31/08 5:43p.m.

Jerry built that!!! -- Eric Hughes WWP 15 # 2475 Moonbeam Mechanicsburg Pa -- 10/31/08 5:48p.m.

Radio Controlled Sailboats -- Jerry Barrilleaux -- 11/1/08 5:51p.m.

I built one -- Eric Hughes WWP 15 # 2475 Moonbeam Mechanicsburg Pa -- 11/2/08 1:51p.m.

I bought some balsa and epoxy and built one.. -- Jack, H23.5, Force 5, Clermont Fl. -- 11/2/08 2:21p.m.

probably should have bought a kit.. -- Jack, H23.5, Force 5, Clermont Fl. -- 11/2/08 2:29p.m.

Thats pretty cool. -- Eric Hughes WWP 15 # 2475 Moonbeam Mechanicsburg Pa -- 11/2/08 5:45p.m.

I once turtled an International 14 -- Mike Higgins -- 10/31/08 10:30p.m.

Turtles -- Mike Westfield,webmaster potter-yachters.org&potter-pod.com,Richmond,VA -- 10/31/08 6:50p.m.

Turtles...Mike W. -- Dan Phy P15 #1051 Ol' Geezer , Ft. Bragg, Ca. -- 10/31/08 8:22p.m.

Turtle acceptability... -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 10/31/08 9:07p.m.

TURTLE ACCEPTABILITY -- Don Person -- 10/31/08 10:43p.m.

Wow! You capsized a Star? -- Mike Higgins -- 11/1/08 8:53a.m.

It took a few trys -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 11/1/08 11:53a.m.

Turtle -- Dan Phy P15 #1051 Ol' Geezer , Ft. Bragg, Ca. -- 10/31/08 8:07p.m.

Turtle roll call -- Don Person -- 10/31/08 10:27p.m.

You bet your sweat ...... Oh, wrong Turtle group. -- Dave_N - - SF Bay Area Sailor -- 11/1/08 12:37a.m.

WWP-19 turtles? -- David Lee P-19 #478 'Ohana' Stillwater, MN -- 11/1/08 5:38a.m.

Mine is a P19 -- Chris J, P19 "Rocky" SLO CA -- 11/1/08 7:56a.m.

 P-19 and Turtle   -- Robert Griffin P-19 #1505 Sandbob, Tahoe -- 11/1/08 10:22p.m.

phew! -- David Lee P-19 #478 'Ohana' Stillwater, MN -- 11/2/08 1:36p.m.

Where my water is.... -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 11/2/08 2:24p.m.

Water Bag -- Robert Griffin P-19 #1505 Sandbob, Tahoe -- 11/2/08 7:24p.m.

Water Stowage -- Eric Zilbert -- 11/10/08 10:17a.m.

I've been tempted to do the same. -- Eric, P-19, #1221 Austin, TX -- 11/10/08 3:08p.m.

P15 water stowage - bottles -- Mike (Potter 14 MKII "Courageous") -- 11/11/08 4:43a.m.

Yup! Be sure the board is down when the sails are up. -- Harry Gordon, WWP14 #234, Manatee, Mountain View, CA -- 11/1/08 11:25a.m.

That's the only case I've heard of one turtling the P19 -- Eric, P-19, #1221 Austin, TX -- 11/1/08 5:07p.m.

Conditions for turtles -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 11/1/08 5:37p.m.

Sails Work Better When Dry -- Petek WWP-19 -- 11/11/08 7:53p.m.

Peter Welcome Aboard (or I guess its "Below" -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 11/11/08 9:27p.m.

excuse me.. Petek (automatic fingers I guess) -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 11/11/08 9:28p.m.

Brotherhood of Turtles -- Dick Herman, Muddy Duck -- 11/1/08 8:51a.m.

"BOT'S" -- Dan Phy P15 #1051 Ol' Geezer , Ft. Bragg, Ca. -- 11/1/08 2:09p.m.

Campaign Rhetoric -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 11/1/08 2:29p.m.

Tim, me thingst you're on to something . . . -- Jerry Kergan (P-15 "Lazy Ka", Concord / San Francisco Bay) -- 11/1/08 6:55p.m.

-- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 11/1/08 7:35p.m.

Turtles and dismasting -- Katie Lea, P14 #691 "Follow Me", Santa Clara, CA -- 11/3/08 3:52a.m.

One thing we should not forget -- Robert Griffin P-19 #1505 Sandbob, Tahoe -- 11/3/08 6:57a.m.

SF Bay and hypothermia -- Vince, P-19 #1642, "Ithuriel's Spear", SF Bay -- 11/8/08 8:12a.m.

Lifeboat Tea -- Stephen Butter, P 15, Butter1, #2200, Olympia, WA -- 11/8/08 11:40a.m.

Thanks for the tea tip Stephen.. -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 11/8/08 12:58p.m.