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Posted By: John Turpin, P-15 "Tetra", Edmond, OK
Date: 12/11/08 6:34a.m.

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I need your collective brain power and electronical "know how". This year, I'm going to install a Raymarine ST1000+ autotiller unit on Tetra. I've decided to sail her to the South Pacific and I'd like to nap while she steers herself. (Okay, that South Pacific part isn't completely true.)

Here's my dilemma. Tetra is not electrified. All this time, I've used jump start batteries to power any electric needs: masthead tricolor/anchor light, depth sounder, accessory charging, etc.. If possible, I'd like to NOT install a permanent battery. Portable batteries have worked for me and give me flexibility that I like. Messing around with a post-factory battery installation sounds like a real hassle and, quite frankly, I just don't use that much power. When I decide to put in A/C and a freezer, that might change.

Here's my question. Could I reasonably power my new autotiller from a portable battery? I am an electricity idiot and don't see that changing any time soon. I have two jump start batteries. One is a small battery that I've used for years and it has lost all labels that identify its specifications. I use it for accessory stuff and it works fine, so forget about that one. The other is a big honkin' battery that has 600 starting amps (and like a gazillion peak amps). It's big in size, weighs a ton, and has lots of lights and gizmos on it. It frequently draws admiring stares and nods from manly men. I'm wondering if I could run my new autotiller from this battery for week-long trips.

So, here's my assumption. In an eight-hour sailing day, I would never use "Ray" for longer than four hours--most days just a fraction of that. But, let's assume a total of twenty hours of autotiller use in a five-day trip. Assume that I would not be able to find a 110 outlet to charge him up during that time. Here's what Raymarine says about current consumption for this unit:

Standby: 40 mA (90 mA with full lighting) Auto: 0.5 A to 1.5 A depending on boat trim, helm load and sailing conditions

Assume the higher end of that scale because when Ray's steering, I'll be scooting around messing with stuff and he'll be working hard to keep her on course as the ballast (me) constantly shifts. As for the battery, it was obviously meant to start cars and is certainly not optimized for deep cycleish duty. So, it's already at a disadvantage. I envision a 6 foot (+ -) run of battery cable from the battery's location in the cabin to the unit's location toward the stern. Assume that I'd use this battery solely for Ray's power. If/when I find out that the battery might not support 20 hours of autotiller power, I would plan to mount a solar panel somewhere to provide some extra juice. If possible, I'd have the panel trickling power into one cigarette lighter outlet at the same time that Ray is sucking power out of a second cigarette lighter outlet.

So, here's my question. Can anyone estimate how many hours of autotiller use this battery might get me? Then, what size solar panel (in watts) would be needed to keep up with the current outflow? There are small solar panels that provide 5-6 Watts (per hour?) and then the next range tends to jump up to about 8-10 watts. Anything beyond 10 watts would be cost prohibitive and I'd probably be forced into a real marine battery purchase.

My tired arms and tiller-calloused hands thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

Electrically Confused in Oklahoma

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Messages In This Thread

 Watts and Amps and Volts -- Oh my!   -- John Turpin, P-15 "Tetra", Edmond, OK -- 12/11/08 6:34a.m.
Need more information -- Chris J, P19 "Rocky" SLO CA -- 12/11/08 8:08a.m.
Found a little more info -- John Turpin, P-15 "Tetra", Edmond, OK -- 12/11/08 8:27a.m.
OK, 22 aH then... -- Chris J, P19 "Rocky" SLO CA -- 12/11/08 7:08p.m.
An alternative... crew! -- Eric, P-19, #1221 Austin, TX -- 12/11/08 8:56a.m.
Maybe a little help from the Sun -- John Turpin, P-15 "Tetra", Edmond, OK -- 12/11/08 10:19a.m.
John, I plan to do the same with my P-15, -- Ken Lockhart, P-15 #1121 Indianapolis -- 12/11/08 2:14p.m.
Maybe we should experiment on your boat, then perfect it on mine! -- John Turpin, P-15 "Tetra", Okie Land -- 12/11/08 5:50p.m.
I'll watch, too! -- Katie Lea P-15 "Follow Me" Santa Clara -- 12/11/08 6:12p.m.
I did install the one on my P-19, it was not too difficult, -- Ken Lockhart, P-15 #1121 Indianapolis -- 12/11/08 6:29p.m.
WE ARE MISSING SOME CRITICAL ISSUES!! -- Dave Chase P15 #1074, Lk MI -- 12/12/08 5:59a.m.
"ISSUES!" -- Dan Phy P15 #1051 Ol' Geezer , Ft. Bragg, Ca. -- 12/12/08 7:23a.m.
LOL! Dan and Dave, here's to simplicity. -- Steve Haines, catboats, Goose Bayou, FL -- 12/12/08 8:22a.m.
How do you heave-to in a catboat Steve? -- John Madill WWP15 Mackinac Dreamer -- 12/13/08 6:09a.m.
Lash the tiller -- Steve Haines, catboats, Goose Bayou, FL -- 12/13/08 7:48a.m.
yarning with Stanley Smith -- Dave Chase P15 #1074, Lk MI -- 12/12/08 4:20p.m.
These are critical issues, all right, but... -- Chris J, P19 "Rocky" SLO CA -- 12/12/08 7:39a.m.
Good thoughts, but... -- Dave Chase P15 #1074, Lk MI -- 12/12/08 9:14a.m.
It will be interesting to see how it can be used -- John Turpin, P-15 "Tetra", Okie Land -- 12/12/08 12:27p.m.
Tetra -- Dan Phy P15 #1051 Ol' Geezer , Ft. Bragg, Ca. -- 12/12/08 2:12p.m.
John, are you thinking T200 in '09? -- Westcoaster - O'day 19 -- 12/12/08 2:38p.m.
Are YOU thinking about going? -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 12/12/08 3:09p.m.
Just not sure. -- Westcoaster - O'day 19 -- 12/12/08 7:17p.m.
Three events in a short amount of time -- John Turpin, P-15 "Tetra", Where the wind comes sweepin' -- 12/12/08 6:42p.m.
Tetra's Events -- Dan Phy P15 #1051 Ol' Geezer , Ft. Bragg, Ca. -- 12/12/08 7:13p.m.
It'd be a helluva season, wouldn't it?! -- Westcoaster - O'day 19 -- 12/12/08 7:17p.m.
Dates and Info -- John Turpin, P-15 "Tetra", Where the wind comes sweepin' -- 12/13/08 3:57a.m.
Events -- Ron -- 12/13/08 4:38a.m.
Ron tell me more about the festival at Cortez, please. -- Steve Haines, catboats, Goose Bayou, FL -- 12/13/08 7:49a.m.
Events/Tetra -- Dan Phy P15 #1051 Ol' Geezer , Ft. Bragg, Ca. -- 12/13/08 7:55a.m.
If anyone could Dan....... -- Tim..."Morning Dove" P19 #457 Potter Valley CA -- 12/13/08 9:53a.m.
Northern Calif. PYC -- Dan Phy P15 #1051 Ol' Geezer , Ft. Bragg, Ca. -- 12/13/08 12:20p.m.
Road trip -- Kurt-P15 "Sea Gypsy" -- 12/13/08 2:59p.m.


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