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245 with roller furling & UV protection... but

Posted By: Pete M P-23
Date: 5/11/09 10:03a.m.

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In Response To: What is the PHRF of the 23? (nm) (Butch Erny)

Stock P-23 has a PHRF of about 230.

Unfortunately, PHRF does not tell all about a boat's performance (not just speed) under real conditions. Agreed, that on 40 mile beam reach waterline length will prevail among displacement hull boats. But who does that in a 23 foot boat?

With a few exceptions, we are able to routinely match other boats with 200 PHRF during races. Once in a while we nail the big boats. See photo with 37.5' Hunter Legend (PHRF 111) and 36' Catalina (PHRF 138) on our stern at the finish. We were in the same fleet as the other non-spins dropped out due to high winds, causing our P-23 was moved into the big boat fleet. We came in second out of six entries to a Saber 36. Winds were never less than 18 knots.

Messages In This Thread

My next boat? Ideas? Opinions? -- John Stevens P-23 -- 5/10/09 9:24a.m.
It looks like you already have the main criteria nailed down -- Rob M, P-21, Minuet building. -- 5/10/09 10:19a.m.
Just looking at the TSBB clasifieds is see -- Rob M, P-21, Minuet building. -- 5/10/09 10:41a.m.
Rob I'm looking... -- John Stevens P-23 -- 5/10/09 6:19p.m.
Beneteau -- Pete M P-23 -- 5/10/09 2:00p.m.
The 265 will put me over the trailer limit -- John Stevens P-23 -- 5/10/09 6:31p.m.
If infrequently trailered - get perimits -- Pete M P-23 -- 5/11/09 5:10a.m.
Question about permits? -- John Stevens P-23 -- 5/11/09 6:58a.m.
Check regs for each State traveled -- Pete M P-23 -- 5/11/09 7:36a.m.
There are some reasons to not like.. -- Jack, H23.5, SecondSojourn,Clermont Fl. -- 5/10/09 5:47p.m.
S2 7.9 -- Don B, P18, Greers Ferry Lake, AR -- 5/10/09 5:51p.m.
fast and has the headroom. -- Butch Erny -- 5/10/09 6:05p.m.
P-23 is faster -- Pete M P-23 -- 5/11/09 8:03a.m.
What is the PHRF of the 23? -- Butch Erny -- 5/11/09 9:28a.m.
 245 with roller furling & UV protection... but   -- Pete M P-23 -- 5/11/09 10:03a.m.
phrf -- Butch Erny -- 5/11/09 10:30a.m.
Bring the S-2s up to the Rendezvous for a "shoot out" -- Pete M P-23 -- 5/11/09 1:27p.m.
They'll eat you up, Pete -- Tom Ray -- 5/12/09 9:26a.m.
Don't tell Butch, but I agree -- Pete M P-23 -- 5/12/09 11:54a.m.
Racing is no fun without some trash talk -- Tom Ray -- 5/12/09 1:07p.m.
Amen Bro. -- Pete M P-23 -- 5/12/09 2:33p.m.
Next boat? -- Doug Dannen -- 5/11/09 4:52a.m.


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