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Kevin...

Posted By: Tom Scott, P-18
Date: 2/25/05 3:44p.m.

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In Response To: Re: Oh, good grief... I HAVE to comment... :( (Kevin, P-18, NJ)

...The P-185 centerboard is a steel plate encapsulated in fiberglass. (...same as your P-18, only the plate on the P-185 is bigger/heavier.) The P-185 I sailed used a multi-part purchase to handle the board. I have never seen a statement as to what the board (alone) weighs, but my guesstimate is that it weighs more than 100lbs, and less than 200lbs. The P-185 brochure only describes it as having a "ballasted centerboard". In the full up position, about half of the centerboard is resting above the waterline. (6" draft "board up"; 12" wide centerboard) Combine that with crew hanging onto the deck edge as the boat passes 90 degrees, and "quickly turning turtle" is clearly where you are headed. Also, if the boat is left on a mooring with the board up (or even down) ...and a roller furling jib is installed ...and a thunderstorm is nearby ...a capsize is not an a unreasonable occurrence - or even expectation.

This isn't a P-185 issue - it's a "dinghy characteristic". A Snipe, Lightning, 470, Rebel, Interlake, Mutineer, Buccaneer, etc. etc. would all behave in a very similar fashion in the same circumstances. None of these "type" of boats should be left on a mooring with inclement weather nearby, possibly with boards raised, and furling jibs hoisted. Nor should they be expected to do anything other than turn turtle if knocked down with their boards fully raised, and crew hanging on past 90 degrees of heel. After one has decided to purchase a "performance oriented" dinghy of some type, this tendency to capsize is more an issue of "physics" than "design".

Tom Scott, P-18 #129 "Alert"

Messages In This Thread

Turtling P-185 -- Brad Benner, P-18 "Solstice", PA -- 2/24/05 5:21p.m.
Re: Turtling P-185 -- Brad Benner, P-18 "Solstice", PA -- 2/24/05 5:23p.m.
Oh, good grief... I HAVE to comment... -- Tom Scott, P-18 -- 2/24/05 7:45p.m.
Tom, it is good to see you back on the board! -- Dave Edwards, Michigan, P165 -- 2/25/05 5:13a.m.
Well Dave, I'm not really back... -- Tom Scott, P-18 -- 2/25/05 7:56p.m.
Tom, its nice to know you are..... -- Barnacle, P23 #414 "Kari Lee" -- 2/26/05 7:14a.m.
Just had my first really close look at your doormat -- Mark Folse, P-18 Tchopitoulas -- 3/1/05 9:16a.m.
-- Tom Scott, P-18 -- 3/1/05 3:10p.m.
Self Bailing Cockpit -- Glenn -- 3/8/05 3:01p.m.
Re: Oh, good grief... I HAVE to comment... -- Kevin, P-18, NJ -- 2/25/05 6:53a.m.
Geeeesssss O Pete...Hi Tom!!! -- Jack, P-165 "Sojourner" -- 2/25/05 9:30a.m.
 Kevin...  -- Tom Scott, P-18 -- 2/25/05 3:44p.m.
Re: Kevin... -- Kevin, P-18, NJ -- 2/27/05 4:39p.m.
P 185 Centerboard Controls -- Tom Ray -- 2/26/05 5:03a.m.
Schack! -- Mike Jones, P-21, "Tschuss!" -- 2/26/05 7:28a.m.
Re: Turtling P-185 -- Ed Ramsey, S2 6.8, AMF Apollo, Cortez 16, etc. -- 2/25/05 9:43a.m.
Re: Turtling P-185 -- Lugrig -- 2/25/05 3:04p.m.
Re: Turtling P-185 -- Tim Canary, P-21, NJ -- 2/24/05 5:52p.m.
Doesn't sound like he knows how to sail -- Brian, Precision 23, Lake Lanier, GA -- 2/24/05 5:56p.m.
I agree Brian, that boat is a mess -- Russ McBean, P-23 #231 "Kittiwake" -- 2/24/05 7:34p.m.
Re: Turtling P-185 -- Rob Myran P-21 #144, Windance, Viroqua, WI -- 2/24/05 5:57p.m.
Re: Turtling P-185- everyone should email this fellow -- Tim Marks-Seaward Fox-Mystic, CT -- 2/25/05 7:01a.m.
P-185 Turtling -- My-Precision-185.Com -- 2/25/05 12:02p.m.
Whoever thought Ralph Nader was a pain in the ass was mistaken. -- Brian, Precision 23, Lake Lanier, GA -- 2/25/05 12:31p.m.
Re: P-185 Turtling -- Kevin, P-18, NJ -- 2/25/05 12:55p.m.
Oh my word, rather than reading ... -- Jack, P-165 "Sojourner" -- 2/25/05 5:23p.m.
I re-read his post, and have another cause... -- Jack, P-165 "Sojourner" -- 2/25/05 5:46p.m.
Re: I re-read his post, and have another cause... -- Dave Edwards, Michigan, P165 -- 2/25/05 7:22p.m.
Re: P-185 Turtling -- Tom Scott, P-18 -- 2/25/05 7:18p.m.
Re: Turtling P-185- everyone should email this fellow -- Jim -- 2/26/05 11:30a.m.
Not GOLF... -- Jack, P-165 "Sojourner" -- 2/26/05 11:54a.m.
I'm opposed to licensing of any type, but give that guy a ticket!! -- geneWj First Born & Teacher's Pet III, Bradenton Fl. -- 2/25/05 4:11p.m.

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