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If the sprit can be about 10% of "J" or more

Posted By: Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36
Date: 3/28/08 9:18a.m.

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In Response To: I am (was?) planning same, deck mounted 'sprit (Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee)

then it is DEFINITELY worth including as you gain many benefits.

Obviously the boat will be faster because the A-sail can be BIGGER, but it also benefit from more seperation from the main... more airflow, like a bigger throat on a carburetor (showing my age here).

Due to the increased seperation, it will also fly better at lower angles relative to the wind. A-sails don't like running close to DDW but the further out in front the luff is, the deeper angles it can fly.

The vertical angle of the luff changes too, and will lift the bow more.... which means of course that it needs to be stronger. Figure that the boat will basically be lifted by the spinnaker pole and build it accordingly (that's why carbon fiber is so popular for the things). If you go beyond about 20% of "J" then some serious attention needs to be paid to structural issues.

It also helps with helm... the leverage changes from a tendency to round up or broach to a tendency to pull the nose down, if the sail plan is designed right then the boat will accelerate & depower very smoothly in gusts, the A-sail can be flown with ease in winds that make a conventional spinnaker squirrely & scary.

If the pole can't be long enough to gain some of the benefits, you might as well not bother... just fly it like a regular cruising spinnaker. But the improvement can be huge and IMHO well worth it.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Messages In This Thread

1995 2023R for sale in Wisconsin -- Tom, 2023A, Coupeville WA -- 3/27/08 9:57a.m.
A little closer, and I'd check her out. -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee -- 3/27/08 10:48a.m.
Check out the pic with the mast shape in it. -- GEN, Santana 2023A-Tall, SE Michigan -- 3/28/08 6:52p.m.
A bit expensive for this kind of experiment but... -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 3/27/08 11:55a.m.
experiment -- Mark Welch -- 3/30/08 6:27p.m.
R conversion -- charles pratt -- 4/7/08 6:39p.m.
2023r -- richard -- 3/27/08 4:06p.m.
Info on 2023R Assy Spinnaker -- Tom, 2023A, Coupeville WA -- 3/27/08 5:22p.m.
I am (was?) planning same, deck mounted 'sprit -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee -- 3/28/08 8:51a.m.
 If the sprit can be about 10% of "J" or more  -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 3/28/08 9:18a.m.
Thanks, Doug, thoughts for me to ponder. -- Gary, Santana 2023, Milwaukee -- 3/29/08 9:47a.m.
Size matters -- Bob Frak 2023C Marquette Mi. -- 3/29/08 7:36p.m.
Spoken like a true American male, Bob! -- Gary, Santana 2023, Milwaukee -- 3/29/08 8:40p.m.
That's a BIG difference... -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 3/31/08 10:59a.m.
Hey, Doug! What Rudy has done was simple, effective. -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee -- 4/1/08 1:33p.m.
bow sprit lever - stainless steel stock -- Paul Germain, 2023 C -- 4/1/08 4:21p.m.
Sounds good -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 4/3/08 7:48a.m.
Bow - Important to consider. -- Geiorge E Norkus, Santana 2023A, SE Michigan -- 4/4/08 1:01p.m.

 

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