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Home Forums Search Trailer Sailor Roster Chandlery Events Classifieds Resources About TSBB SBO Sites	Instructions/FAQ | Rules & Etiquette | Edit Profile | Forum Login View Thread | Post Response | Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg | Right on the money, Ben... except that my spinnaker is RED!! Posted By: Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 Date: 10/6/09 6:02p.m. Report: outside forum guidelines In Response To: Yes, I'm mostly familiar with all you wrote... (Ben, Santana 2023R) When the wind is stronger, and you are going hull speed, go much closer to straight-line downwind... even DDW with asymm wing-and-wing. It can be tricky, the best way is slightly by the lee and eased the sheet so the sail goesforward of the headstay a little. To sail a really deep angle with a asymmetric, ease the halyard a little and the tack line a little more. That lets the sail "rotate" or come to the windward side of the boat as you ease the sheet; gets more projected area & a wider slot between the luff & the mainsail. If the sail starts to oscillate, pull the halyard back some, if it gets wild, head up to more of a reach. Death-rolling is slow! I have loved sailing with asymmetric spinnakers and feel like going back to the old fashioned symmetric & pole is just really a PITA. Fortunately I have capable crew who loves pulling all the strings & running around on the foredeck. Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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2023 boat speeds - How fast do you go? -- Todd-2023C-SFBay -- 9/9/08 10:21p.m.

depends on the wind -- Seth Dabney, 2023-C, Oxford, MS -- 9/10/08 7:05a.m.

Similar to both you AND Seth... -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee -- 9/10/08 8:01a.m.

2023 boat speeds -- David Loy -- 9/10/08 8:18a.m.

Is 6.1 knots, then 'THE' accepted hull speed for the 2023? -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee -- 9/10/08 10:59a.m.

6.1 Knots is my maximum. Gary - You are able to reach above that easily? -- Todd-2023C-SFBay -- 9/10/08 11:27a.m.

6.1 kts? -- David Loy -- 9/10/08 12:16p.m.

If I'm correct in thinking this... -- George E Norkus, Santana 2023A, SE Michigan -- 9/10/08 1:41p.m.

Now THAT I can speak of with confidence, George! -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee -- 9/11/08 8:25a.m.

Some other sailboats are made to sail better at a % of listing over but not ours -- George E Norkus, Santana 2023A, SE Michigan -- 9/11/08 12:07p.m.

I'm not good enough to say what I'm doing -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee -- 9/11/08 8:15a.m.

Hull speed -- Glen / S-21 "Winterdream" -- 9/11/08 8:02a.m.

Very similar to my thoughts, Glen. -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Milwaukee -- 9/11/08 8:32a.m.

Planing a Schock -- David / S-21 "God's Gift" -- 9/12/08 7:02a.m.

Nah, the hull shape is all wrong -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 9/30/09 7:16a.m.

Interesting, -- Ben, Santana 2023R -- 10/1/09 9:13a.m.

How are you measuring speed? -- Bruce Rawlins - 2023C - Richland, WA -- 10/1/09 3:20p.m.

I have both -- Ben, Santana 2023R -- 10/1/09 10:23p.m.

"Hull Speed" is kind of a soft limit -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 10/6/09 7:36a.m.

Here's a video that shows what I mean -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 10/6/09 10:31a.m.

Yes, I'm mostly familiar with all you wrote... -- Ben, Santana 2023R -- 10/6/09 1:26p.m.

 Right on the money, Ben... except that my spinnaker is RED!!   -- Doug King, Santana 23 & Sundowner 36 -- 10/6/09 6:02p.m.

Ooops sorry! Must be something with my monitor or my eyes -- Ben, Santana 2023R -- 10/7/09 8:31a.m.

Asym Wing-wing -- Michael -- 10/30/09 5:37p.m.

14 -- Bob -- 9/10/08 7:07p.m.

On my 1st or 2nd year -- George E Norkus, Santana 2023A, SE Michigan -- 9/11/08 12:47p.m.

Years ago, someone in Cali said they'd planed in the 2023 -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Metro-Milwaukee -- 9/23/09 10:54a.m.

Faster than Hull in a 2023r -- Michael -- 10/30/09 5:41p.m.

Yep -- Peter -- 12/1/09 2:27p.m.

Which Peter is this? Is it he... -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Metro-Milwaukee -- 12/2/09 2:06p.m.

Thanks, Michael, that's similar with my experience on the Great Lakes. -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Metro-Milwaukee -- 11/5/09 8:16a.m.

Yee Haw! -- Catherine S21 #187 -- 11/5/09 8:55a.m.

I'd need blades on the hull for the ice, come February! -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Metro-Milwaukee -- 11/6/09 1:28p.m.

Nice shot.. -- Bob Frak Santana 2023C -- 11/5/09 9:39a.m.

Wha...!? You don't 'smuggle' yours across, same as everyone else!??! -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Metro-Milwaukee -- 11/6/09 1:34p.m.

Oh! I guess I should add for any 'new' readers -- Gary, Santana 2023A, Metro-Milwaukee -- 11/6/09 1:42p.m.

Are you saying you now sport buns of steel? -- Catherine S21 #187 -- 11/7/09 5:21a.m.

Har, har, har! Catti, girl... your husband's got himself a 'keeper', lol's! -- Gary, Santana 2023, Milwaukee -- 11/8/09 4:26p.m.