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Home Forums Search Trailer Sailor Roster Chandlery Events Classifieds Resources About TSBB SBO Sites	Instructions/FAQ | Rules & Etiquette | Edit Profile | Forum Login View Thread | Post Response | Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg | That's a broad question... Posted By: Paul 1989 S23 "Half Moon", NJ Date: 6/5/09 8:35a.m. Report: outside forum guidelines In Response To: Seaward 32' : Are they Sage at Sea (Terry) As others have stated, she's well designed and capable of extended coastal cruising, but I would not ever put her in the catagory of safe for off-shore... In my humble opinion, for a sailboat to be "safe" for off-shore operation, meaning beyond the possibility of relatively quick return to shore to avoid storms, there needs to be passive righting weight distribution, a locked and covered companionway hatch and a rudder that is protected from being smashed by a following sea. By passive righting capability I mean fixed weight distribution which will right the boat following a knockdown... Some off-shore cruisers have "centerboards" but, mind you, the righting moment is built into the fixed keel they fold into and the board is strictly used for upwind sailing performance. The retractable keel provides most of its righting momentum when fully down, but this is not the boat's "passive" position - it must be physically lowered. The rudder is extended behind the stern and extremely vulnerable to impairment from following seas. The companionway hatch, in it's flimsey tracks, will undoubtedly be ripped off by the very first breaker coming over the deck... But, again, this is just my humble opinion... I would take her, no doubt, any place where I can safely manouvre her within about 8 hours of a guaranteed safe harbor.

Messages In This Thread

How did you buy or sell your Seaward? -- Scott, Seaward 23 -- 4/4/09 7:38a.m.

How I found mine -- Ernie Brown Sea Pearl, past Fox owner -- 4/4/09 7:50a.m.

My Seaward story with pictures and two com-pacs. -- Rahn Lawton, "Legato" (Suncat) and a Fox and 2 Hobie Adventure Islands -- 4/4/09 10:57a.m.

Dad's Seaward Story -- Matt - 1998 S25 - Olympia, WA -- 4/4/09 11:13a.m.

How 'we' found our S25 -- Dan Eggert - 1995 Seaward 25, Rosslyn Treasure, SE Michigan -- 4/4/09 12:18p.m.

If you have way too much free time, buy a motorcycle. -- Bud -- 4/5/09 4:44a.m.

I actually was going to buy a 2005 BMW. -- Rahn Lawton, "Legato" (Suncat) and a Fox and 2 Hobie Adventure Islands -- 4/5/09 9:50a.m.

Motorcycling is just like sailing... -- Dan Eggert - 1995 Seaward 25, Rosslyn Treasure, SE Michigan -- 4/5/09 1:21p.m.

Rahn, your comments don't bother me in the least. -- Bud -- 4/5/09 5:55p.m.

Yer lookin' good there Bud. -- Paul 1989 S23 "Half Moon", NJ -- 4/5/09 6:01p.m.

Good advice -- Matt ('90 S25 Caribbean Soul) -- 4/7/09 9:01a.m.

BMW, Seaward, Kids -- Bill J 1999 S-23 "Ringle" -- 4/6/09 2:12p.m.

Since we are sharing pics -- Scott, Seaward 23 -- 4/4/09 12:16p.m.

Never posted a pic before, so I hope this works. -- Scott, Seaward 23 -- 4/4/09 12:36p.m.

Wow-Nice 23, Scott! -- Rahn Lawton, "Legato" (Suncat) and a Fox and 2 Hobie Adventure Islands -- 4/4/09 12:41p.m.

Thanks Rahn, -- Scott, Seaward 23 -- 4/4/09 3:17p.m.

Sweet. -- Bud -- 4/5/09 4:50a.m.

Agreed,.. Very nice! -- Jay H, Sea Pearl 21, Seaward 24, Yankton SD -- 4/5/09 1:37p.m.

Good Looking 23, Scott -- Bill B, 1989 Arctic, "SAGA", former S-22 owner -- 4/6/09 5:04a.m.

Well, here's our story -- Jay H, Sea Pearl 21, Seaward 24, Yankton SD -- 4/4/09 11:30p.m.

Jay, couldn't you try to act more excited in that picture? -- Bud -- 4/5/09 4:47a.m.

Jay, I am looking at her waterline in that pic -- Paul 1989 S23 "Half Moon", NJ -- 4/5/09 5:16a.m.

My story -- Paul 1989 S23 "Half Moon", NJ -- 4/5/09 5:33a.m.

Waterline -- Jay H, Sea Pearl 21, Seaward 24, Yankton SD -- 4/5/09 1:23p.m.

Waterline under sail -- Jay H, Sea Pearl 21, Seaward 24, Yankton SD -- 4/5/09 1:58p.m.

I find just sitting all the way forward on the cockpit seats -- dave, 2002 S-23. "Bonnie Alice" -- 4/5/09 4:14p.m.

all the stories we could tell -- bayoubrez -- 4/5/09 3:50p.m.

Great story Jay -- Rodger 2002 S25 "SanDee" -- 4/5/09 9:18a.m.

Everyone knows our history, but here is Johnny and Linda's story -- Bud -- 4/5/09 4:50a.m.

That S24 on eBay...Johnny and Linda -- Dan Eggert - 1995 Seaward 25, Rosslyn Treasure, SE Michigan -- 4/5/09 8:06a.m.

wanted smaller boat, something similar in size to Suncat -- Bruce Woods, Slipper 17 "Nimby," Raleigh -- 4/5/09 5:43a.m.

FYI, Starboard Yachts was the name of the company back then -- Matt ('90 S25 Caribbean Soul) -- 4/5/09 10:10a.m.

ah, cool! -- Bruce Woods, Slipper 17 "Nimby," Raleigh -- 4/5/09 5:05p.m.

Probably why they changed it! -- Matt ('90 S25 Caribbean Soul) -- 4/6/09 7:33a.m.

did your below the water line thru-hull -- dave, 2002 S-23. "Bonnie Alice" -- 4/5/09 4:26p.m.

it was laughable -- Bruce Woods, Slipper 17 "Nimby," Raleigh -- 4/5/09 5:04p.m.

wow - sounds like fortunate find before bad stuff happened -- dave, 2002 S-23. "Bonnie Alice" -- 4/5/09 5:53p.m.

yeah, took a few sails, saw water in the cabin floor -- Bruce Woods, Slipper 17 "Nimby," Raleigh -- 4/6/09 3:45a.m.

I bought my first Fox in '95. -- Steve Haines, Seaward Fox "BOB", FL panhandle -- 4/6/09 5:14a.m.

My Fox story. -- Pat 92 Fox -- 4/6/09 10:26a.m.

Seaward story -- Bill B, 1989 Arctic, "SAGA", former S-22 owner -- 4/6/09 6:23a.m.

Seaward 32' : Are they Sage at Sea -- Terry -- 6/4/09 4:53p.m.

I think it is safe for what it is designed for -- Jeff Johnson Seaward 22 Lake Norman -- 6/4/09 5:28p.m.

Safe or Not -- Terry -- 6/4/09 6:43p.m.

safe offshore? -- Dan -- 6/5/09 4:49a.m.

Not designed as a world cruiser -- Jeff Johnson Seaward 22 Lake Norman -- 6/5/09 7:32a.m.

bluewater boat -- dave -- 6/5/09 10:48a.m.

Someone sailed a Seaward 22 to Bermuda from Norfolk -- Jeff Johnson Seaward 22 Lake Norman -- 6/5/09 11:42a.m.

this local guy's boat was not a blue water boat but did OK -- dave, 2002. S-23 "Bonnie Alice" -- 6/6/09 3:23a.m.

Wow, quite a trip there -- Jay H, Sea Pearl 21, Seaward 24, Yankton SD -- 6/6/09 5:39a.m.

You can read this book online -- Rahn Lawton, "Legato" (Suncat) and a Fox and 2 Hobie Adventure Islands -- 6/12/09 2:18a.m.

 That's a broad question...  -- Paul 1989 S23 "Half Moon", NJ -- 6/5/09 8:35a.m.

seems most here made my point -- Dan -- 6/6/09 11:01a.m.

How I found the Slipper -- Jim, Slipper 17, Jane Air, Raleigh -- 6/5/09 7:47p.m.

How I got my Slipper -- Bruce Woods, Slipper 17 "Nimby," Raleigh -- 6/6/09 3:15p.m.

found mine on the web -- Anne Westlund, Raggedy Annie, Slipper 17 -- 6/7/09 1:49p.m.

How I found S-25 -- Al H. -- 6/12/09 6:06p.m.

Al, so good to see a post from you again. -- Bud -- 6/12/09 6:42p.m.

Forgot to ask Al. Do you ever hear anything from -- Bud -- 6/12/09 6:47p.m.

He had a post -- Rodger 2002 S25 "SanDee" -- 6/13/09 11:39a.m.

our seaward story -- s22 brian -- 10/30/10 7:11p.m.

Thanks for sharing and keeping the thread alive Brian -- Jay H, Yankton, SD -- 11/1/10 7:04a.m.

picture -- s22 brian -- 11/1/10 7:32p.m.

S22 Brian -- Slipper17 -- 11/2/10 12:18p.m.